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Kevin Berthia & Kevin Briggs: Listening to Understand the Mental Health Crisis

Kevin Berthia and Kevin Briggs are an unlikely pair.

But their friendship saves lives. And it was hard won, founded on what matters – mutual respect, trust, and listening. They met when Sergeant Briggs was in the state highway patrol and Kevin Berthia was jumping off a bridge. Today they stand side by side as suicide prevention advocates, helping people know they’re not alone, that there is hope and a future. It’s been many years now since they met and we are honored to be part of their ongoing conversation.

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Hosted and produced by Kate Tucker, Hope Is My Middle Name is a podcast by Consensus Digital Media in collaboration with Reasonable Volume.

If you or someone you know is experiencing suicidal thoughts, please call or text 988. Or you can talk online at

Warning Signs of Suicide

Talking about wanting to die
Looking for a way to kill oneself
Talking about feeling hopeless or having no purpose
Talking about feeling trapped or unbearable pain
Talking about being a burden to others
Increasing the use of alcohol or drugs
Acting anxious, agitated or recklessly
Sleeping too little or too much
Withdrawing or feeling isolated
Showing rage or talking about seeking revenge
Displaying extreme mood swings

What to Do

Do not leave the person alone
Remove any firearms, alcohol, drugs, or sharp objects that could be used in a suicide attempt
Call or text 988 for the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline
Take the person to an emergency room or seek help from a medical or mental health professional emergency room, or seek help from a medical or mental health professional

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